"I personally do not perceive cancer as an enemy…when we wage war on it, we wage war on ourselves." —Dr. Nasha Winters

What if cancer isn’t the enemy but a profound messenger about the state of our inner and outer terrain? In this conversation, Dr. Ron Hunninghake is joined by Dr. Nasha Winters—a naturopathic oncologist, author, and Kansas native—to explore a radical shift in understanding, treating, and living with cancer.

This conversation is part of the Cancer Care Reimagined Speaker Series, leading up to Riordan Clinic’s Cancer Care Reimagined Conference and 50th Anniversary Gala this November.

Highlights include:

→ Why seeing cancer as a wound or messenger changes the path of healing

→ The tangible and intangible factors that drive long-term remission

→ How metabolic oncology and integrative care open new possibilities for treatment

Dr. Nasha Winters shares her own survival story, her pioneering work in metabolic oncology, and how she’s training clinicians, advocates, and patients worldwide to approach cancer differently.

Meet Nasha Winters, ND, FABNO

Nasha Winters, ND, FABNO, is a naturopathic oncologist, global educator, and author of “The Metabolic Approach to Cancer” and “Mistletoe and the Emerging Future of Integrative Oncology.” She is the CEO of Dr. Nasha, Inc. and Co-Founder of Terrain Holding Company, leading efforts to advance metabolic oncology research, practitioner training, and innovative cancer care models. Dr. Winters also hosts the “Metabolic Matters Podcast” and continues to shape the future of integrative oncology through education, research, and patient advocacy.

This series is made possible by Empower, the Platinum Sponsor of Cancer Care Reimagined and Riordan Clinic’s 50th Anniversary Gala. As a national leader in compounding pharmacy and 503B outsourcing, Empower serves providers and patients across all 50 states with safe, affordable, and personalized medications. Guided by the belief that behind every order is a person in need, they bring compassion and innovation to everything they do. Learn more at https://empowerpharmacy.com.

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Welcome + introduction to the speaker series

01:44 Introducing Dr. Nasha Winters

03:05 Rethinking cancer as a messenger, not an enemy

06:27 Tangible vs intangible factors in remission

10:24 Nasha’s early connection to Riordan Clinic

16:29 Fasting, ascites, and her survival story

19:56 The rise of metabolic oncology

22:15 Exploring fungal and microbial drivers of cancer

24:00 Trauma, PTSD, and cancer triggers

27:49 Training clinicians, advocates, and allied health professionals

31:57 The importance of community and connectivity in healing

34:21 Shame, childhood trauma, and cancer risk

37:47 Bridging art and science in medicine

39:45 Looking ahead to the conference and gala

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Topics we explore in this episode include:

cancer care reimagined, metabolic oncology, integrative oncology, cancer as messenger, terrain-based medicine, patient advocacy in cancer care, functional medicine cancer treatment, cancer and trauma healing

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