This podcast features interviews with the organizers of the fall 2020 virtual conference "Encountering Difference, Embodying Boundaries, and Unsettling Borders: Middle Eastern Refugees and Immigrants in the European Union". Hosted, and with introduction and conclusion, by UNC Geography faculty Dr. Banu Gökarıksel. Conference organizers include UNC Geography alumni Dr. Devran Koray Öcal and Dr. Nathan Swanson, and current students Betül Aykaç, Suad Jabr, and Lily Herbert.