What if you didn’t have to wait until 65 to enjoy retirement? Bruce sits down with Jillian Johnsrud — coach, speaker, and author of Retire Often: How Anyone Can Take Multiple Career Breaks to Unlock Adventure, Advance Their Career, and Find Financial Freedom.

Jillian shares how mini retirements — intentional breaks of a month or longer — can help you reset, pursue meaningful goals, travel, or spend time with family without sacrificing your long-term financial health. She explains:

• How to budget for a mini retirement: replace one month of income and cap extra costs at ~50% of take-home pay


• Why it’s smart to front-load affordable, physically demanding adventures early in life


• Creative ways to offset costs, from renting out your home to home exchanges


• How mini retirements can actually advance your career by reducing burnout and opening new opportunities


• The mindset shifts needed to see career breaks as investments rather than setbacks

If you’ve ever dreamed of backpacking across Europe, taking a sabbatical to write a book, or just having the time to breathe between career chapters, this conversation gives you the financial planning tools, creative strategies, and inspiration to make it happen — without blowing up your future retirement plans.

Find out more at retireoften.com and connect on Instagram.