Cat and Bruce sit in camping chairs next to the mighty Mississippi River with the roaring cicadas for company and chat about being Pre-punk, marching in the '83 Mayday parade, apple harvest, dumpster diving, working with refugee populations in Thailand, moving to Laos, penpalling with Train Doc while helping formulate the most precious and coveted & Iconic CrEw ChAnGe, fighting against big hydropower in Southeast Asia, starting Black Butte Center for Railroad Culture from just a caboose in the woods, handling "right off the hill" trim scene oogle vibes, going on wacky river trips from the Mekong to the Mississippi for decades, and being as free range a punk as one can get. 

Intro Nature Boys 

Outro Charlie Parr