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Risk: protecting the children or protecting the system? CEO on Disadvantaged youth

Risk: protecting the children or protecting the system? CEO on Disadvantaged youth

Update: 2023-06-14
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In this thought-provoking episode of Uncomfortable Collisions with Reality, Nicholas Gruen and guest Jarrod Wheatley, founder and CEO of PIC Professional Individualized Care, delve into the complex issue of risk in out-of-home care for children. As they explore the challenges faced by those involved in child protection, they discuss the delicate balance between prioritizing the child's well-being and managing organizational risk. Drawing parallels to the institutional imperative and transparent decision-making, this episode sheds light on the need for thoughtful consideration and empathy when navigating the intricacies of the out-of-home care system.


0:55 Introduction
1:23 How the system humiliates
4:07 Prioritizing the best interests of the child
7:42 How the system prioritizes its own preservation, more than the children
9:56 Risks surrounding out-of-home care
13:30 It's the interests of the kids we're after
16:45 How would you act if they were your niece or nephew?
20:10 Bernie's advice
22:35 Practical examples
25:54 The role of communication


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Risk: protecting the children or protecting the system? CEO on Disadvantaged youth

Risk: protecting the children or protecting the system? CEO on Disadvantaged youth

Nicholas Gruen