Robert Stark is joined by Matt Pegas to discuss his article, Contrasting my Political Journey with that of Richard Hanania (How I became who I am, as a Woke Chad Centrist).

Topics:

-Whether Robert should write an auto-biography or insider history of the Alt-Right

-The Background of Richard Hanania, who transformed from an Alt-Rightest to a pro-immigration libertarian neoliberal 

-How both Robert and Richard are honest about their trajectories in a way that most people aren’t

-Meeting Richard Hanania in LA

-How Robert never explicitly identified as Alt-Right, and his earlier views weren’t actually that extreme

-How anti-intellectual Chuds have ruined the online dissident right discourse

-Matt’s political trajectory, voting for Hillary Clinton, and then coming across Robert’s podcast in 2018

-Robert and Matt’s Alt-Center project, after the collapse of the Alt-Right

–How Robert and Matt manifested Dime Square

-How Robert’s views were shaped by class and demographic dynamics in LA

-How Robert felt pressure to signal to more reactionary viewpoints

-Robert’s promotion of enclavism and phase where he adopted the rhetoric of the multicultural left

-Why Robert now has contempt for conspiracy theorists, anti-Semites, and rightwing populists

-The quasi-religious notion of having to repent for bigoted views rather than evolving

-How people are unaware of how their subconscious, and factors like social status, shape their political views

-How American society places negative moral value on loserdom

-How Robert subconsciously had the same views he has now from an early age

-Narratives about populism vs elitism, and whether hating the rich is a cope

-Why Matt considers Robert’s philosophical views fundamentally rightwing

-Robert’s Aristocratic Radicalism

-Do we need technocracy to manage social status?

-Matt’s upcoming publishing project, New Ritual Press, which will republish Robert’s novel, Vaporfornia

-How Robert is not emotionally invested in the election

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