Steve Jobs was famous for his micromanagement, but he never visited Apple’s manufacturing plants in China. 

Ryan Holiday is a best-selling author and a student of stoic philosophy. His latest book is Right Thing, Right Now: Good Values. Good Character. Good Deeds. Dylan Lewis caught up with Holiday for a conversation about:

- How investors can implement stoic philosophy.  

- Why Holiday gave up on marketing spend for his business.

- The cost of getting outside of your comfort zone. 

Company mentioned: AAPL

Host: Dylan Lewis

Guest: Ryan Holiday

Producer: Ricky Mulvey

Engineer: Tim Sparks

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