Most strategies don’t fail because they’re bad ideas.
They fail because people were never aligned to live them.

In this powerful conversation, Anthony sits down with Debbie Klintworth to unpack why customer loyalty, performance, and growth always start inside an organisation before they ever show up on the outside.

With over 25 years of frontline, leadership, and CX experience, Debbie challenges the loyalty myth, calls out corporate buzzwords, and explains why culture is not a vibe, it’s behaviour.

This episode is a must-watch for leaders, founders, and executives who want to close the gap between strategy on paper and reality on the ground.

If you care about people, performance, and building organisations that actually work — this one’s for you.

⏱️ Timestamps (Chapters for YouTube)

00:00 – Why most strategies fail before they even start
02:45 – What the “strategy gap” really looks like in organisations
06:10 – Culture isn’t a poster, it’s behaviour
10:05 – Why loyalty programmes don’t create loyalty
14:30 – The frontline as your greatest strategic asset
18:40 – Leaders vs leadership behaviour
23:15 – Why alignment beats motivation every time
27:50 – Scaling without breaking your culture
32:10 – Human-centred leadership in an AI world
36:45 – What should be automated and what must stay human
41:20 – The cost of ignoring your people
45:10 – Practical steps leaders can take immediately
49:30 – Final reflections on purpose-led leadership

🔑 Key Takeaways

• Strategy fails when behaviour doesn’t match intent
• Culture is created by what leaders tolerate and reward
• Customer loyalty is built internally, not through campaigns
• The frontline sees the truth long before leadership does
• Alignment beats motivation, incentives, and slogans
• AI should remove friction, not humanity
• Leaders must experience reality, not just review reports

🎯 Who This Episode Is For

✔ Business owners and founders
✔ Senior leaders and executives
✔ CX and HR professionals
✔ Organisations scaling or transforming
✔ Anyone feeling the gap between strategy and reality

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🌐 Connect with Debbie Klintworth:

• ➡️ Footprint Collective Facebook: footprintcollectivecx
• ➡️ LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbieklintworth/
• ➡️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@footprintcollectivecx     
• ➡️ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/footprintcollectivecx/
• ➡️ Website: https://footprintcollective.co.nz/

• The Strategy Gap Checklist (just 5 questions that reveal if your strategy is being lived, understood, and executed… or if it’s quietly drifting off course) - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RUDr96Hcg3gWarQf0k-eLqy0duzdgZEQ/view?usp=sharing

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