In this episode, Ana and Stevie are mulling over BOYISH dressing. Ana pays a visit to see Claire Marie Healy, Deputy Editor at Dazed & Confused, who shares the charm of her thrifted synthetic zip-up top, which makes her feel like an extra from Freaks and Geeks. There's also talk of clothes on film, feeling obliged to strive for femininity, and dressing your age (whatever that means).

Oh, and Stevie has had a personal style-related crisis after getting her clothes out of her storage unit. Great!

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Music: E's Jammy Jams - Arabian Sand (via YouTube Music Library), Kevin MacLeod - Hard Boiled, Aaron Liebermann - Gypsy Stroll (via YouTube Music Library)