What makes a truly great charity leader in 2025? It feels like the right time to revisit this topic. Guests Maggie Smith and Judith Miller are experts in leadership, training and coaching and work closely with charity finance professionals.



In this episode, they talk about their early years in leadership development, share the personal leadership traits they believe are needed in the 21st century, and explain why keeping the spotlight on diversity, inclusion and wellbeing in the workplace is more important than ever before.



If you'd like tips on how to be a better leader (and human being!) join us for part one of our Talking about... Leadership podcast. And to keep you on your lifelong journey to being a great leader, check out the resources Judith and Maggie recommend below!



·       Cracking the Code: The Secret to Successful Strategy Execution & Lessons for the C-Suite, Rommin Adl

·       Emotional Intelligence: Why it can matter more than IQ, Daniel Goleman

·       Atomic Habits, James Clear

·       The Power of Habit, Charles Duhigg

·       Mindset, Carol Dweck 

·       The Chimp Paradox, Prof. Steve Peters

·       The outstanding leadership research – Exceeding Expectation 

·       Uncharted, Margaret Heffernan (find her on Substack) 

·       Dare to Lead, Brene Brown, plus The Gifts of Imperfection and Rising Strong

·       Why Should Anyone Be Led By You? Rob Goffee and Gareth Jones

·       Ted Lasso seasons 1-3, Apple TV

·       Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking, Susan Cain

·       Time to Think, Nancy Kline

·       Flourish, Martin Seligman



With thanks again to Maggie and Judith for so generously sharing their time, insights and experiences.



Look out for part 2, coming soon!