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In this episode, Ken Fish and Grant Pemberton explore one of the most curious and unsettling stories in the Bible: Saul’s visit to the medium of Endor, where the prophet Samuel appears from the dead. They discuss whether it was really Samuel, what the spirit world looked like before the resurrection of Jesus, and what this story teaches us about the boundaries of spiritual practice.

The second half of the episode shifts into a pastoral conversation about grief. Ken shares insight into how prolonged mourning can open people up to deception, why some people report seeing or hearing from the dead, and the biblical view of familiar spirits. The episode ends with a gentle call for reconciliation, healing, and the importance of processing loss in a healthy way.

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