Mark and Kenny grapple with a feeling that they cannot explain while discussing the meaning (and mythology) behind this would-be anthem.  Topics include Julius Caesar, perception, the value of the underdog, generational education, Nas, divorcing Kelis, and Madonna (finally) embracing the title of QUEEN.  Plus electronic pop artist Afro Sensei picks up the phone and joins the conversation to discuss the Nas/Jay-Z feud, fulfilling your potential, taking the assignment, atheism, Kendrick Lamar, campy earworms, Janelle Monae, chill pop, and following in the footsteps of other black queer artists to meet the musical moment.  Mark allows “journey” to return and Kenny makes a case for the song in The Celebration Tour - and the importance of getting the facts rights.  SupercaliSWAGalistic!

Afro Sensei on Spotify

Afro Sensei on Bandcamp

“The Joy Fantastique” video by Afro Sensei (2019)

“Love Takeover” video by Afro Sensei (2021)