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S7 E2: How I moved to England and realised I was brown

S7 E2: How I moved to England and realised I was brown

Update: 2023-06-30
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Have you had a conversation about the color of your skin growing up?

Hannah Pillow did not, because she grew up in South Africa, where the color of her skin was ‘Normal’.


But she soon discovered that in England, Brown meant: Different.


Hannah sheds light on her journey from South Africa to England and the realization of her identity as a brown person.


  • Growing up in a multicultural bubble: Hannah reflects on her upbringing in South Africa, where she belonged to a close-knit Indian South African community. Despite living in a country with a majority of people of color, she highlights the remnants of the damaging apartheid era that still linger, shaping the cultural dynamics within the society.


  • The Burden of Otherness: Moving to England introduced Hannah to new experiences of being "othered" by both individuals of her own race and British people. 


  • Curiosity and Tokenism: Joining a white family through marriage, Hannah encountered curiosity about their culture, often feeling like a representative of all brown people, which she felt was too much to place on her.


Join Hannah in this thought-provoking and entertaining podcast as we embark on a journey of self-discovery, cultural exploration, and candid conversations. Through personal anecdotes and insightful discussions, Hannah aims to challenge stereotypes, promote empathy, and celebrate the vibrant tapestry of humanity. 


Share your own experiences of prejudice and racism, and let's create a space where diverse voices can be heard. Tune in to the Refreshingly Human Podcast, and together, let's break barriers and embrace our shared humanity.



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S7 E2: How I moved to England and realised I was brown

S7 E2: How I moved to England and realised I was brown

Hannah Pillow