The loss of a child must be heartbreaking, devastating, surreal all at once - how can you even begin to define it? One morning back in November 2007, it was a nightmare that North Wales father Simon Hill was thrust into - but for Simon, there was an extra dimension to such a tragedy.

For it was at the hands of his equal - the person supposed to love and protect a child more than anyone.

The episode contains details and descriptions of crimes and events, involving  a child, that some listeners may find disturbing and or distressing, so discretion is advised whilst listening.

Music used in this episode: "The Descent" by Kevin Macleod. All music used is sourced from https://filmmusic.io/ and used under an Attribution Licence (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

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