In our second HoGcast episode, the focus is on art and work, explored through a really fascinating conversation between artist Michelle Browne and St Helens resident Gary Conley.

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Gary is an ex miner and a bit of an all around local legend and good egg here in St Helens, and Michelle is an interdisciplinary artist who we've had the good fortune of working with over the last number of years.

Gary and Michelle have been working together on an upcoming project titled World of Work, which is a new cooperative game, an exploration of labour histories and futures, where the aim is to achieve a collective win.

This podcast was recorded in early 2020, before the COVID-19 restrictions took effect, and so was recorded in person in St Helens. Over a brew!

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LINKS / RESOURCES

• World of Work project


• Jeremy Deller’s So Many Ways to Hurt You

Follow Michelle’s work at: http://www.michellebrowne.net

Read more and download the episode ⁠⁠here⁠⁠.

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Conversations Over a Brew is a podcast series from St Helens based arts organisation Heart of Glass, consisting of intimate recorded conversations exploring the stories of the people we make art with.

www.heartofglass.org.uk