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Season 1: 04 – The Leader’s Heartache

Season 1: 04 – The Leader’s Heartache

Update: 2024-06-06
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This episode focuses on the heart to help point Jonathan to what he cares about that needs to change. He speaks of dignity, wholeness and heartache, all while experiencing a wide range of feelings coming from his heart.


00:58 Illuminate Question 3
05:07 What makes my heart ache is the suffering of children.
08:18 Dignity not always the word in the Constitutions but the digging takes us to sacred dignity.
10:10 In every newborn child, there is a dignity that doesn’t need to be earned. It’s inherent in the spirit, the soul, of the child.
13:22 The word “wholeness” is important here. We can borrow religious language into our secular life.
25:27 Our journey is one of repair. We are walking down that road to character, becoming the better version of ourselves.
31:32 The two ideas of dignity and brokenness can co-exist. I think there is a sanctity in the human soul. It lies below wholeness and sin and is inviolable.
42:40 Even just seeing it, the child suffering produces enough heartache for a lifetime. We carry it around with us.
44:44 The heart also aches because your own idea of the world, what you believe in,is being violated at the same time.
47:34 The book “1984” signals the extinction of humanity, that it could happen.
49:09 We have to understand the power of ideas to mobilize people.
54:08 What’s inspiring about the European Union is that it’s a constant, a permanent, attempt to reconcile all these competing voices. That’s what makes it heroic. Trying to reconcile competing visions of the good life.
59:06 I’ve got things to say and want to say them. What am I waiting for?
1:11:43 Digging together, you feel this is the only thing that matters because of the power of conversation.
1:19:45 Consciousness is the page.
1:27:17 Father Europe vs. Mother Europe
1:37:38 Revival or stagnation?
1:46:02 Final answer

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Season 1: 04 – The Leader’s Heartache

Season 1: 04 – The Leader’s Heartache

Marianne Gobeil