DiscoverThe UX GrowthSeason 5 -Episode 11 Andrew Schall
Season 5 -Episode 11 Andrew Schall

Season 5 -Episode 11 Andrew Schall

Update: 2025-10-07
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Are we still doing personas wrong?

That’s the question I asked Andrew Schall, the author of The Persona and Journey Map Playbook, on the UX Growth Podcast.

We talked about:
• Why personas often fail to influence real design decisions
• How to create ones that actually matter to stakeholders
• Why context and ‘altitude’ determine whether your journey maps succeed or stall
• The growing role of AI in building (and breaking) our research process

This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever wondered why your artifacts don’t seem to survive past a single sprint, or how to make your research work at scale.

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Thank you for listening, and let's keep growing.

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Season 5 -Episode 11 Andrew Schall

Season 5 -Episode 11 Andrew Schall

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