The Game Changers podcast celebrates those true pioneers in education who are building schools for tomorrow. In episode 190 (Part 2) of Game Changers, Phil Cummins joins in conversation with Amy Baker And Clare Gossage.

Clare Gossage is COO and Co-Founder of The PIE. She has worked in the international education sector for 25 years, heading up international marketing teams at a group of English language schools and then a university before The PIE was launched in 2011. She now leads The PIE’s events and marketing teams, plus the back office. Having studied languages and worked overseas, Clare is passionate about the opportunities that can be created by international experiences.

Amy Baker is CEO and Co-Founder of The PIE, a business created to inform, inspire and connect a global community of leaders in higher education and study abroad. The PIE's flagship news website reaches two million readers each year and Amy is a regular commentator and host of events focused on the international education industry's latest developments.

The PIE organises conferences in the UK, Australia and USA and globally renowned event The PIEoneer Awards. It also has a division, The PIE Exec Search, which helps people find the right talent that understands the business of international education. Amy is passionate about the development of the sector, edtech, international exchange and business, migration and education as a global passport.

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