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Seth Lazar: Normative Philosophy of Computing

Seth Lazar: Normative Philosophy of Computing

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Episode 124

You may think you’re doing a priori reasoning, but actually you’re just over-generalizing from your current experience of technology.

I spoke with Professor Seth Lazar about:

* Why managing near-term and long-term risks isn’t always zero-sum

* How to think through axioms and systems in political philosphy

* Coordination problems, economic incentives, and other difficulties in developing publicly beneficial AI

Seth is Professor of Philosophy at the Australian National University, an Australian Research Council (ARC) Future Fellow, and a Distinguished Research Fellow of the University of Oxford Institute for Ethics in AI. He has worked on the ethics of war, self-defense, and risk, and now leads the Machine Intelligence and Normative Theory (MINT) Lab, where he directs research projects on the moral and political philosophy of AI.

Reach me at editor@thegradient.pub for feedback, ideas, guest suggestions.

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Outline:

* (00:00 ) Intro

* (00:54 ) Ad read — MLOps conference

* (01:32 ) The allocation of attention — attention, moral skill, and algorithmic recommendation

* (03:53 ) Attention allocation as an independent good (or bad)

* (08:22 ) Axioms in political philosophy

* (11:55 ) Explaining judgments, multiplying entities, parsimony, intuitive disgust

* (15:05 ) AI safety / catastrophic risk concerns

* (22:10 ) Superintelligence arguments, reasoning about technology

* (28:42 ) Attacking current and future harms from AI systems — does one draw resources from the other?

* (35:55 ) GPT-2, model weights, related debates

* (39:11 ) Power and economics—coordination problems, company incentives

* (50:42 ) Morality tales, relationship between safety and capabilities

* (55:44 ) Feasibility horizons, prediction uncertainty, and doing moral philosophy

* (1:02:28 ) What is a feasibility horizon?

* (1:08:36 ) Safety guarantees, speed of improvements, the “Pause AI” letter

* (1:14:25 ) Sociotechnical lenses, narrowly technical solutions

* (1:19:47 ) Experiments for responsibly integrating AI systems into society

* (1:26:53 ) Helpful/honest/harmless and antagonistic AI systems

* (1:33:35 ) Managing incentives conducive to developing technology in the public interest

* (1:40:27 ) Interdisciplinary academic work, disciplinary purity, power in academia

* (1:46:54 ) How we can help legitimize and support interdisciplinary work

* (1:50:07 ) Outro

Links:

* Seth’s Linktree and Twitter

* Resources

* Attention, moral skill, and algorithmic recommendation

* Catastrophic AI Risk slides



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Seth Lazar: Normative Philosophy of Computing

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