Joel Dommett and Ben Shephard are a month into their new business and still getting to grips with everything they need to do to set up their skincare brand. To help give them some semblance of structure in the chaos they speak to Russ, their business partner, who sets out what they need to achieve in the next year, what their next steps will be and gives them some homework... things get REAL.

Plus, Ben and Joel respond to some of your Patreon questions and comments and Joel tells us why he's suspicious of massages...

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