In this powerful solo episode of the Able to Care Podcast, host Andy Baker explores why shame—while still commonly used to manage behaviour in homes, classrooms, and care settings—often does more harm than good. From outdated scripts to emotional reactions, we dive into how shame suppresses learning, damages trust, and diminishes self-esteem in children and adults alike.

Whether you’re a teacher, parent, or carer, this episode offers practical insights on how to shift away from shame-based responses and towards compassionate, constructive behaviour support.

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🛠️ Resources Mentioned

📖 Targeting the Positive: A Practical Guide to Understanding and Supporting Challenging Behaviours by Andy Baker

🔗 Able Training

🔑 Key Messages

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   Shame doesn’t teach — it suppresses: Labelling children or adults as “naughty” or “bad” can damage their self-esteem and block emotional growth.

   
   


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   Short-term compliance isn’t long-term learning: Shame may stop behaviour in the moment, but it doesn’t foster understanding, empathy, or reflection.

   
   


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   Teach through connection, not condemnation: Use natural consequences, curiosity, and reflection to guide behaviour positively and sustainably.

   
   

⏳ Timestamps (Chapters)

00:00 – Why calling a child “naughty” can be harmful

01:11 – 🎧 Sponsor: Carers Card UK

02:18 – The psychology of shame and learned helplessness

03:48 – Real-world examples: classrooms, care homes, and parenting

05:03 – The long-term damage of shame on self-esteem

06:22 – Shame breeds secrecy, not growth

07:02 – Shame breaks trust and emotional connection

07:45 – Why shame persists and how it's emotionally reactive

08:35 – Instant compliance vs. authentic behaviour change

09:36 – Fight, flight, freeze: How shame becomes an emotional weapon

10:40 – How to replace shame with restorative practice and empathy

11:52 – Use natural consequences, not humiliation

12:56 – Respond with curiosity, not condemnation

13:50 – Repair and reflect after behaviour, not reprimand

14:46 – The myth of “not enough discipline” and the call for connection

15:40 – What kind of society are we really building with shame?

🎧 Why Listen to This Episode?

This episode is a must-listen for:

✔ Parents navigating challenging behaviour

✔ Teachers balancing emotional needs and discipline in the classroom

✔ Carers supporting individuals with emotional or behavioural distress

You’ll walk away with practical ways to support behaviour through empathy, growth mindset, and restorative connection—instead of outdated shame-based tools.

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