In this episode, Wendy speaks with psychologist and contemplative researcher Simon Goldberg. Simon uses tools drawn from psychotherapy research to better understand the therapeutic processes and outcomes of mindfulness and meditation-based interventions. This conversation covers many topics, including:

• coming to practice through one's own suffering;



• what we know from science about whether and how meditation "works;"



• the nuts and bolts of meditation research, and the importance of control groups;



• the file drawer effect and publishing negative findings;



• common factors in healing interventions;



• working with the self in psychotherapy vs. Buddhism;



• the critical role of acceptance;



• some challenges when measuring effects of meditation;



• individualizing contemplative practice to suit the person;



• delivering and studying meditation interventions through apps;



• and the possibilities of AI to help support meditation practice.

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