This episode is a crossover with “The Science of Happiness,” a podcast where you can learn research-tested strategies for a happier, more meaningful life, drawing on the science of compassion, gratitude, mindfulness, and awe. Hosted by award-winning professor Dacher Keltner. Co-produced by PRX and UC Berkeley's Greater Good Science Center. Listen here https://pod.link/1340505607 or in your podcast app of choice!

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