Luis and Brad host this episode. Brad talks about his experience with Coldbox and how with his previous company they chose it as their new framework thanks to the great amount of documentation present for it. He also talks about how interceptors have become a game changer to shift towards event based programming. The integration of an async manager that would allow Java libraries in Coldfusion is something Brad is excited about as it would bring a whole new path of options to go through. Luis and Brad talk about the state of programming languages and how they are overlapping each other and how companies now choose a language that best suits them and mostly not because of the features anymore. This has led to legacy applications being abandoned because they believe that language is no longer working for them when in reality it is a matter of modernization. Brad talks about things that he would love to see in the future for Coldfusion like serverless and Docker. Finally, they also talk about the state of the Coldfusion community and the language itself. The image it has towards the outside is that of an old language and the community tends to be older developers. They speak about possible solutions and how a better community with newer developers could be the spotlight Coldfusion needs.