The dads are joined by Sky Sports broadcaster, presenter, journalist, Gooner, and all-round top bloke James Green for this episode of the podcast. 

On the show, James shares his own experiences of loss with Matt & Liam, and while you would hope that the dads managed to structure this important topic in some kind of sensible way - they just go off down various rabbit holes and somehow try to pull it all together at the end to make it sound profesh.

The three of them talk about loss, mental health, being public with their grief, the impact of the podcast and having a voice on baby loss, and how men deal with emotions. 

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'Dad Still Standing' is a podcast about baby loss and grief and is a Factory Originals production.