Most professionals treat "yes" as their default setting, then spend their lives playing catch-up. Brandy Jordan joins us to help reframe "no" as a necessary operating system for strategic decision-making rather than a personal failure. The discussion covers the planning fallacy, why self-abandonment is unsustainable leadership, and how starting with no actually leads to better, more intentional “yes” decisions.

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• (00:00 ) - Welcome to She Counts
  


• (00:52 ) - Meet Brandy Jordan: The Power of Starting with No
  


• (01:53 ) - The Genesis of She Counts Podcast
  


• (05:36 ) - Personal Experiences with Saying No
  


• (09:45 ) - The Importance of Prioritizing and Setting Boundaries
  


• (17:30 ) - Practical Tips for Saying No
  


• (32:01 ) - Reflecting on the Importance of Pausing
  


• (32:29 ) - Overcoming the Fear of Saying No
  


• (34:46 ) - Personal Boundaries and Work-Life Balance
  


• (39:55 ) - The Planning Fallacy and Time Management
  


• (47:53 ) - Encouraging a 'Start with No' Mindset in Teams
  


• (53:32 ) - Final Thoughts and Takeaways

• Brandy Jordan on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandysart/
• “The Power of Saying No to Boost Productivity and Set Boundaries” by Brandy Jordan - https://report.woodard.com/articles/the-power-of-saying-no-to-boost-productivity-and-set-boundaries-opdwr-wmwr
• Brandy’s Woodard Report articles - https://report.woodard.com/articles/author/brandy-jordan
• Daniel Kahneman & Amos Tversky, “Thinking, Fast & Slow” - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11468377-thinking-fast-and-slow

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