My guest is Stephen Charles KC, a former Court of Appeal judge.

He is a board member of the Accountability Round Table and the Centre for Public Integrity and co-author of Keeping them Honest - the case for a genuine national integrity commission and other vital democratic reforms.

We had a conversation about the National Anti-Corruption Commission bill (NACC) that has been tabled to parliament.

You can find more information on my guest Stephen Charles and the NACC legislation via the links below.

The Centre for Public Integrity

https://publicintegrity.org.au/

NACC Publications

Australian Government Attorney General's Department

https://www.ag.gov.au/integrity/publications/nacc-publications

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