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Steven Wolfe Pereira: How Can You Govern Something That You Don't Understand?

Steven Wolfe Pereira: How Can You Govern Something That You Don't Understand?

Update: 2025-07-24
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(0:00 ) Intro

(1:28 ) About the podcast sponsor: The American College of Governance Counsel

(2:15 ) Start of interview

(3:17 ) Steven's origin story

(7:09 ) The AI Market Explosion

(10:07 ) Introducing Alpha: the company he leads. 

(16:01 ) On Events and Board Forums: "There is going to be a premium on IRL really moving forward because the bar is going to be so high" 

(17:50 ) The Necessity of Tech-Savvy Directors

(19:58 ) Steven's State of the Art of AI for directors. "The AI wave is driven by 4 forces: 1) Compute (the most important), 2) Data, 3) Algorithms, and 4) Robotics."

(25:11 ) Recommendations for directors on how to dive deeper into AI. *Reference to Menlo Venture's 2025: The State of Consumer AI

(29:24 ) Understanding AI Tools and Their Value

(31:55 ) Governance in the AI Age "How can you govern something you don't understand?"

(38:21 ) Navigating Private vs. Public Companies

(44:58 ) Geopolitical Tensions and AI. The options: 1) The Empire Strikes Back (China); 2) Star Trek (EU); and 3) The Capitalist Version of Mad Max (USA)

(49:28 ) The Future of Agentic AI

(52:12 ) The Importance of Data as an Asset

(58:53 ) How can the Board address the AI challenge

(1:04:14 ) Books that have greatly influenced his life:

  1. Meditations, by Marcus Aurelius 
  2. Start with Why, by Simon Sinek (2009)
  3. The Coming Wave, by Mustafa Suleiman (2023)

(1:05:36 ) His mentors

  1. Chinh Chu 
  2. Viola McCausland
  3. Paul Sagan
  4. David Kenny
  5. Lisa Hook

(1:07:39 ) Quotes that he thinks of often or lives his life by: "You become what you give your attention to.

(1:08:19 ) An unusual habit or an absurd thing that he loves.

(1:09:20 )  The living person he most admires.

Steven Wolfe Pereira founded Alpha to solve a critical problem: most boards are governing AI transformation without the frameworks, intelligence, or peer networks they need to make sound fiduciary decisions. 


You can follow Evan on social media at:

X: @evanepstein

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/epsteinevan/ 

Substack: https://evanepstein.substack.com/

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Music/Soundtrack (found via Free Music Archive): Seeing The Future by Dexter Britain is licensed under a Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License

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Steven Wolfe Pereira: How Can You Govern Something That You Don't Understand?

Steven Wolfe Pereira: How Can You Govern Something That You Don't Understand?

Steven Wolfe Pereira, Evan Epstein