DiscoverHOP Into Action Podcast SeriesStop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning
Stop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning

Stop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning

Update: 2025-09-21
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Welcome to Season 6 and Episode 126 of the HOP Into Action Podcast Series. 

In this episode, Brent Sutton explores the origins of learning from work and how it became a cornerstone of Human and Organizational Performance. He unpacks why everyday adaptations and weak signals matter, why leadership’s role is less about control and more about curiosity, and the real danger of normalising work when things look “all green.” Through stories and reflections, Brent shows how learning makes the invisible visible — turning tacit knowledge into shared understanding, and creating the conditions for BetterWork.

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Stop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning

Stop managing by metrics and start managing by meaning

Brent Sutton