In episode six of Stories From Nowhere, Andrew talks to Justin Jones, former director of the Oklahoma Department of Corrections.

Andrew and Justin discuss the issues surrounding the death penalty, including retribution and deterrence, and systemic poverty. Justin talks about complicated prison cultures, and the meaningful leadership potential of long-term prisoners.

The former Warden also speaks openly about his path to reverse dysfunctional beliefs in both his life and his career. 

For more information about the Oklahoma Department of Corrections: https://oklahoma.gov/doc.html

Criminal Justice Fact Sheet care of the NAACP: https://naacp.org/resources/criminal-justice-fact-sheet

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