Before Burning Man, Coachella and Lollapalooza there was Desolation Center- a series of renegade music concerts featuring the groundbreaking sounds of The Meat Puppets, The Minutemen, and Sonic Youth, just to name a few, and in some of the most unlikely places.

This week we chat with the creator of Desolation Center shows and his documentary of the same name, Stuart Swezey about his DIY vision from almost 40 years ago that still ripples through the underground music scene today.

So join Saucey, Odell and Stuart for all the Verbal Desert Talk we can Digitally Ahoy into your Music Loving EarHoles.