We’re diving headfirst into the world of Taylor Swift and her new album “Life of a Showgirl” -- we're decoding it all and sharing our thoughts and obsessions and feelings.

Is “Cancelled!” really about Blake Lively or Brittany Mahomes? Why her relationship with Travis Kelce is different than with her ex-boyfriends. And why does “Wood" have Swifties (and us!) laughing? Actually Love -- is it about Charli XCX? Why we are so NOT team Charli! We break down all of it — the drama, brilliance, and vulnerability that make Taylor one of the most fascinating artists of our time.

We also get real about our own lives — including the truth about Botox. We’re pulling back our own curtain and revealing exactly how many units we get!

Then we get into a hot parenting topic: when grandparents watch your kids, do you set firm rules — or let them spoil your little ones however they want? We share our personal experiences, the funny moments, and the boundaries (or lack thereof!) that come with family helping out.

Expect laughter, honesty, and plenty of pop culture tangents. Whether you’re here for Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce updates, curious about Botox truths, or looking for a relatable take on modern motherhood, this episode has something for every mom and Swiftie alike.

✨ Between Us Moms is hosted by Hallie Stephens-Drake and Katie Krause-Mork, bringing celebrity interviews, honest mom moments, and unfiltered friendship to your ears every week.

Tune in, laugh with us, and join the conversation — because being a mom is never boring, and neither is being a Swiftie.

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