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Telegram Founder Arrested in France

Telegram Founder Arrested in France

Update: 2024-08-285
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This podcast delves into a variety of pressing global issues, starting with the arrest of Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, in France, sparking a debate about free speech and government overreach. The conversation then shifts to the ongoing conflict in Gaza, examining the containment paradigm at play and the challenges of distributing vaccines in a war zone. The podcast also explores the shift in US nuclear deterrence strategy, the Mpox outbreak in the DRC, and the prevalence of gender-based violence in India. The podcast features an interview with Vermont Senator Peter Welch, who criticizes the Israeli government's actions in Gaza and calls for a more assertive US stance. The conversation then turns to the upcoming US election, with the speaker highlighting the importance of economic issues and the need for Palestinian voices to be heard. The speaker expresses confidence in Kamala Harris's campaign strategy and her choice of Tim Walls as her running mate.

Outlines

00:00:00
Global Issues and the Upcoming Election

This podcast explores a range of current events, including the arrest of Telegram's founder, the conflict in Gaza, the Mpox outbreak, and the upcoming US election, offering insightful analysis and commentary.

00:06:52
Telegram Founder's Arrest and Free Speech Concerns

The podcast delves into the arrest of Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram, in France, sparking a debate about free speech and government overreach.

00:21:40
The Gaza Conflict and the Containment Paradigm

The podcast examines the recent exchange of fire between Israel and Hezbollah, highlighting the limited damage and casualties due to Israel's effective missile defense systems. Ben and Tommy discuss the "containment paradigm" at play, where both sides seem to be seeking to avoid a major escalation. They also explore the tactical advantage Israel holds over Hezbollah and Iran, but acknowledge that this advantage doesn't translate into a strategic victory, given the ongoing conflict in Gaza and Israel's international isolation.

00:26:08
Polio Outbreak in Gaza and the Challenges of a Ceasefire

The podcast discusses the first confirmed case of polio in Gaza, highlighting the challenges of distributing vaccines in an active war zone. Ben and Tommy express concern about the lack of progress in ceasefire talks and the potential for a polio outbreak to spread beyond Gaza. They also critique the Biden administration's approach to the conflict, arguing that their focus on ceasefire negotiations has overshadowed the devastating humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

00:33:38
Shifting Nuclear Deterrence Strategy and the Death of Arms Control

The podcast explores the shift in US nuclear deterrence strategy, with a growing focus on China's rapid nuclear weapons development. Ben and Tommy discuss the implications of this shift, including the potential for a new arms race and the erosion of decades of arms control efforts. They express concern about the lack of progress in arms control talks with China and the potential for a dangerous escalation of tensions.

00:40:26
Mpox Outbreak in DRC and Vaccine Equity Concerns

The podcast examines the ongoing Mpox outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo, highlighting the challenges of vaccine distribution and the potential for a global spread. Ben and Tommy discuss the WHO's response to the outbreak, criticizing its slow pace and lack of resources. They also raise concerns about vaccine equity, noting the disparity in access to vaccines between developed and developing countries.

00:46:03
Trump's Foreign Policy Rhetoric and the Rise of Kash Patel

The podcast analyzes Donald Trump's recent speech at a National Guard convention, where he called for increased defense spending by NATO countries and proposed a National Guard for the Space Force. Ben and Tommy discuss the potential impact of Trump's rhetoric on the 2024 election, highlighting his appeal to anti-war sentiment and his tendency to make reckless promises. They also express concern about the potential for Kash Patel, a former Trump administration official, to assume a high-level position in a future Trump administration, given his history of making false claims and exhibiting erratic behavior.

00:57:11
Protests in India and the Prevalence of Gender-Based Violence

The podcast discusses the recent protests in India following the brutal rape and murder of a female doctor. Ben and Tommy explore the broader context of gender-based violence in India and the government's failure to address the issue effectively. They also discuss the potential for US officials to raise concerns about gender equality with Indian leaders, but acknowledge the challenges of addressing deeply embedded cultural norms.

01:05:40
Interview with Senator Peter Welch on Gaza and Ukraine

The podcast features an interview with Vermont Senator Peter Welch, who has been a vocal critic of the Israeli government's actions in Gaza. Senator Welch discusses his concerns about the Biden administration's approach to the conflict and calls for a more assertive stance towards Israel. He also offers recommendations for how Vice President Kamala Harris could signal a change in policy if she is elected president.

01:12:13
The 2024 Election and its Key Issues

The podcast discusses the upcoming election and the importance of economic issues for voters. The speaker believes that the election will be decided on economic concerns, such as the rising cost of living and healthcare, rather than foreign policy. The conversation then shifts to the ongoing conflict in Gaza and the importance of allowing Palestinian voices to be heard. The speaker expresses support for a Palestinian speaker at the DNC and emphasizes the need for empathy and understanding of the suffering experienced by Palestinians. The conversation turns to the upcoming election and the stark differences between the candidates on issues like Israel, Ukraine, and the economy. The speaker believes that a Harris presidency would be a significant improvement over a Trump presidency, particularly in terms of foreign policy and economic policies. The speaker draws a comparison between the political climate of 1968 and the current situation, highlighting the increased responsiveness of the political system to public opinion. They express hope that this responsiveness will lead to a successful campaign for Harris and Walls. The discussion returns to the Gaza conflict and the potential for a Harris administration to enforce US law, specifically the Leahy Law, which prohibits US assistance to military units that commit human rights violations. The speaker believes that enforcing this law would send a strong signal that the US is serious about its commitments. The conversation shifts to the war in Ukraine and the Biden administration's restrictions on US military aid. The speaker argues that Ukraine should be given more latitude to strike military targets in Russia, particularly those involved in launching attacks on Ukrainian civilians. The speaker discusses Tim Walls, Kamala Harris's running mate, and his qualifications for the position. They highlight Walls's experience in Congress, his work ethic, and his ability to connect with everyday Americans. The speaker expresses confidence in Harris's campaign strategy, particularly her choice of Walls as her running mate and her focus on economic issues. They believe that Harris's inclusive approach and her understanding of middle-class struggles will resonate with voters.

Keywords

Mpox


Mpox is a viral disease that causes a rash and flu-like symptoms. It is spread through close contact with an infected person or animal. The current outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo is particularly concerning due to its impact on children.

Arms Control


Arms control refers to international agreements aimed at limiting or reducing the production, deployment, or use of weapons, particularly nuclear weapons. The podcast highlights the erosion of arms control efforts in recent years, with the US and Russia withdrawing from key treaties and China's rapid nuclear weapons development posing new challenges.

Vaccine Equity


Vaccine equity refers to the fair and equitable distribution of vaccines, ensuring that all people have access to life-saving vaccines, regardless of their location, income, or social status. The podcast raises concerns about vaccine equity in the context of the Mpox outbreak in the DRC, highlighting the disparity in access to vaccines between developed and developing countries.

Kash Patel


Kash Patel is a former Trump administration official who has been accused of making false claims and exhibiting erratic behavior. The podcast discusses the potential for Patel to assume a high-level position in a future Trump administration, raising concerns about his suitability for such a role.

Gender-Based Violence


Gender-based violence refers to any act that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual, or psychological harm or suffering to women, men, girls, or boys, including threats of such acts, coercion, or arbitrary deprivation of liberty, whether occurring in public or private life. The podcast highlights the prevalence of gender-based violence in India and the government's failure to address the issue effectively.

Containment Paradigm


The containment paradigm refers to a strategy of managing conflict by preventing it from escalating into a wider war. The podcast discusses the containment paradigm at play in the recent exchange of fire between Israel and Hezbollah, where both sides seem to be seeking to avoid a major escalation.

Leahy Law


The Leahy Law is a US law that prohibits the US from providing military assistance to foreign military units that commit gross violations of human rights. It has been used many times, but never applied to Israel.

Middle Class Economic Struggles


This refers to the challenges faced by middle-class Americans in maintaining their standard of living due to factors such as rising costs of housing, healthcare, and education.

Democratic Independence


This refers to the concept of a state having a government that is elected by its people and respects the rights and freedoms of its citizens.

Q&A

  • What are the key concerns about the arrest of Pavel Durov, the founder of Telegram?

    The arrest has sparked controversy, with Elon Musk and others claiming it's an attack on free speech. Concerns include potential government overreach, the unique challenges posed by Telegram's decentralized structure, and its popularity in Russia, where freedom of speech is limited.

  • How has the US nuclear deterrence strategy shifted in recent years?

    The US has reoriented its nuclear deterrence strategy to take China into account, due to their rapid development of nuclear weapons. This shift could lead to a new arms race and the erosion of decades of arms control efforts.

  • What are the challenges of distributing vaccines in an active war zone like Gaza?

    The conflict makes it difficult to reach people with vaccines, especially in IDP camps where people are constantly being displaced. Medical groups are calling for a temporary ceasefire to allow for safe vaccine distribution.

  • What are the potential implications of Kash Patel assuming a high-level position in a future Trump administration?

    Patel's history of making false claims and exhibiting erratic behavior raises concerns about his suitability for such a role. His potential appointment could lead to a dangerous and unpredictable foreign policy.

  • How can the US government effectively address the issue of gender-based violence in India?

    The US can work to globalize the conversation about gender equality, encouraging India to strengthen safeguards against rape and sexual assault. However, addressing deeply embedded cultural norms and systemic issues within India will require a multifaceted approach.

  • What are the key issues that will determine the outcome of the upcoming election?

    The speaker believes that economic issues, such as the rising cost of living and healthcare, will be more important to voters than foreign policy.

  • Why is it important to allow Palestinian voices to be heard in the current conflict?

    The speaker argues that it is crucial to understand the suffering experienced by Palestinians and to give them a platform to express their perspectives.

  • What are the potential benefits of enforcing the Leahy Law in the context of the Gaza conflict?

    Enforcing the Leahy Law would send a strong signal that the US is serious about its commitments to human rights and would discourage Israel from committing further violations.

  • Should Ukraine be given more latitude to strike military targets in Russia?

    The speaker believes that Ukraine should be allowed to target military assets in Russia that are being used to launch attacks on Ukrainian civilians.

  • What are Tim Walls's qualifications for the position of Vice President?

    Walls has extensive experience in Congress, a strong work ethic, and a proven ability to connect with everyday Americans.

Show Notes

Tommy and Ben discuss Telegram founder Pavel Durov’s arrest in France, the debate over free speech, social media, and CEO accountability, as well as why the Russian government finds the app so useful. They also talk about strikes between Hezbollah and Israel and the lonely optimism of the US on a ceasefire deal, a change in US nuclear strategy that refocuses on China, the spread of mpox, protests in India over the rape and murder of a doctor, and some troubling insider knowledge about former Trump officials. Then Tommy speaks to Senator Peter Welch about how Kamala Harris could take a stronger stance on Gaza and what Tim Walz’s gym habits were when they were in Congress together.

 

For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email transcripts@crooked.com and include the name of the podcast.

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