Black Women Been Told Y’all: The Canaries in the Coal Mine Guest: Jihan Johnston-McGlotten: Strategist, Researcher, Cultural Technologist, and Mother In this episode, Verta and Naa sit down with the brilliant Jihan Johnston-McGlotten, a Black woman navigating nine months of unemployment after a layoff. Together, they unpack what it means to be pushed out of the workforce while still holding on to creativity, clarity, and community. They explore the deeper truths behind layoffs, the pressure to produce, and the silence that often follows when Black women speak up. From systems that gaslight to the gut instincts that guide us, this is an honest conversation about being the early warning signal — and the brilliance that comes when we choose ourselves anyway. JIHAN'S BIO: Jihan Johnston-McGlotten is a strategist, researcher, and cultural technologist whose work connects technology, gaming, media, and culture to create human-centered, impactful experiences. With over 15 years of experience, she helps organizations, brands, and communities navigate AI, interactive media, gaming, and Human-Computer Interaction (HCI) in ways that are meaningful, inclusive, and culturally informed. As the founder of BeatBotics, a forward-thinking creative technology and media startup, Jihan leads the development of digital experiences that are innovative, equitable, and globally relevant. Her PhD research focuses on HCI and human-centered technology, giving her a unique perspective on how people interact with AI, digital platforms, and interactive media. A mother and global thinker, she blends research, strategy, and cultural insight to translate complex technology and media trends into actionable strategies that resonate across communities. Known professionally as The Real Jihan J, she delivers keynotes, workshops, and strategic advisement for brands, nonprofits, and educational institutions, connecting people, technology, gaming, and culture to foster innovation, inclusion, and authentic human connection. Learn more about Naa & Verta here: Email: thatpart@45Lemons.com  Website: www.45lemons.com/thatpart Instagram: @fortyfivelemons