In the wake of the 2020 summer megafires, Flannery demands a new approach  based on the nation’s response to COVID-19, that will lead to effective government climate change policies. In this episode he talks to his book The Climate Cure, and advocates an action plan for our future based on the road map for managing COVID 19. Tim Flannery is a scientist, explorer, conservationist, climate change commentator, author and former Australian of the Year.