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The Dopamine Trap: Dr Anna Lembke Explains Why Phones, Porn & Pleasure Are Making Us Miserable

The Dopamine Trap: Dr Anna Lembke Explains Why Phones, Porn & Pleasure Are Making Us Miserable

Update: 2025-12-09
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From social media to addictive foods and substances, our modern world is flooded with dopamine addictions. How do we break free? Dr Anna Lembke is Professor of Psychiatry at Stanford University School of Medicine and chief of the Stanford Addiction Medicine Dual Diagnosis Clinic. She is the author of the New York Times best-selling book: Dopamine Nation: Finding Balance in the Age of Indulgence. 


In this conversation, Dr Lembke joins Brian to discuss how our phones have become the modern hypodermic needle, the neuroscience of addiction, how dopamine drives compulsive behaviours, and why change is possible for every single person — even in extreme cases. She also explains why dopamine resets are essential, and how abstinence, therapy, medication, and community support work together to rewire the brain. Anna and Brian also explore why people relapse, whether someone can ever be “fully recovered,” how co-dependency sabotages healing, and what families can actually do to help a loved one struggling with addiction. The episode also tackles youth mental health, the impact of phones and online content on developing brains, and Anna’s powerful advice for parents, teens, and anyone trying to make positive change. If you’re interested in mental health, addiction recovery, dopamine, phone addiction, or personal transformation, this episode is a must-watch.


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Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction: Why Change Is Possible

01:12 – Jacob’s Story: Extreme Porn & Tech Addiction

05:08 – How Technology Supercharges Dopamine & Addiction

07:42 – The Neuroscience: Dopamine, Tolerance & Craving

10:55 – Rock Bottom: Despair, Consequences & Suicidal Thought

13:30 – The Road to Recovery: Abstinence & Resetting the Brain

16:45 – Self-Binding Strategies: Removing Triggers & Tools

19:18 – Medication & SSRIs: When Biology Helps Recovery

21:55 – Understanding Addiction Through the Biopsychosocial Model

25:28 – Little Addictions: Phones, Alcohol, Food & Everyday Dopamine

28:40 – Why 30 Days of Abstinence Changes Everything

31:05 – When Recovery Takes Longer: 90 Days, 12 Months & Beyond

34:20 – Addiction + Mental Health: Treating Both or Risk Relapse

37:10 – Is Recovery Possible for Everyone? Anna’s Honest View

40:15 – Why Addiction Is a Real Brain Disease

42:40 – Helping Loved Ones: Facilitating Safe Consequences

45:55 – Codependency & Enabling: The Hidden Addiction Behind Addiction

49:10 – Identity, Awareness & Whether “Recovered” Is Really Possible

52:25 – Values, Triggers & Why Relapse Happens

54:30 – Why Change Is So Hard: Uncertainty & the Human Brain

56:45 – Advice for Young People: Phones, Porn, Social Media & Dopamine

59:00 – Final Thoughts & Closing Message

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The Dopamine Trap: Dr Anna Lembke Explains Why Phones, Porn & Pleasure Are Making Us Miserable

The Dopamine Trap: Dr Anna Lembke Explains Why Phones, Porn & Pleasure Are Making Us Miserable

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