Sarah and Amy reunite for a Christmas edition of their podcast “The Children of Alcoholics.” It’s been a few months since their last show as both stepped up into new roles with NACOA (National Association for Children of Alcoholics).

But they candidly catch up on how they each managed the festive season of dysfunctional family dynamics and complicated memories tied to their alcoholic fathers, coincidentally both named Steve.

Sarah and Amy swap survival strategies, boundary tools and lessons learned from decades of attending alcohol-fueled Christmas celebrations. While difficult moments are shared, there is also hope as the friends discuss breaking destructive cycles through compassion and understanding this year.