The Fall of Veii: Part II
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The Fall of Veii is finally upon us – or perhaps we should say it was finally upon them! After a shameful defeat early in 396, the Romans decided to appoint a dictator. It is time for a Republican hero to burst into the spotlight. Welcome to the stage, Marcus Furius Camillus!
<figure class="wp-block-audio aligncenter"></figure>Episode 159 – The Fall of Veii: Part II
A Hero is Born
Camillus is a legendary figure of Rome, possibly in more ways than one. He was held up as an exemplar for generations. Even the emperor Augustus was a fangirl. We have mentioned him before, but it is his service as dictator during the siege against Veii where we get to see him shine for the first time.

Bronze Sculpture of Marcus Furius Camillus ca. 1st century AD from the Capitoline Museum. Courtesy of Ancient Times Blog Spot.
The Fall of Veii
The appointment of Camillus restored a sense of optimism to Rome and people were literally queuing up to serve under him. With suspicious ease, Camillus dealt with Veii’s allies, the Faliscans and Capenates, before turning his attention to breaking the siege once and for all. Through clever use of tunnels and military distractions, the Romans defeated their enemy – at last!
Rome has been engaged in almost constant warfare with neighbouring towns and cities for an exceptionally long time, but it is hard to overstate the importance of this conquest. Not only was Veii a wealthy and serious rival, but this acquisition also doubled the size of Rome’s territory. To quote Camillus as he surveyed the battlefield, “Cha-ching!”
However, Camillus made some promises to the gods both before and after this final battle, promises that will have various impacts for our hero and for Rome….
Stay tuned for the next instalment on 396 BCE!
Things to Look Out For:
- The ongoing presence of the vanilla bean plebeian, Publius Licinius Calvus Esquilinus
- A bootylicious face-off between Licinius Calvus and Appius Claudius
- The resurgence of Mater Matuta
- Allusions to the Trojan War
- The discovery of the ancient version of BDE (BRME – Big Roman Masculine Energy)
- Livy constructing history before our very eyes!
Our Players for 396 BCE
Military Tribunes with Consular Power
- L. Titinius L. f. M. n. Pansa Saccus Mil Tr. c. p. 400
- P. Licinius P. f. P. n. Calvus Esquilinus Mil. Tr. c .p. 400
- P. Manlius Sp. f. C. n. Capitolinus Mil Tr. c. p. 400
- Q. Manlius A. f. Cn. n. Vulso Capitolinus? (Pat)
- Cn. Genucius M. f. M. n. Augurinus Mil. Tr. c. p. 399
- L. Atilius L. f. L. n. Priscus Mil Tr. c. p. 399
Dictator
- M. Furius L. f. Sp. n. Camillus (Pat) Mil Tr. c. p. 401, 398, 394, 386, 384, 381
Master of the Horse
- P. Cornelius P. f. M. n. Maluginensis (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 397, 390
Interreges
- L. Valerius (Potitus) (Pat) Cos. 393, 392, Mil. Tr. c.p. 414, 406, 403, 401. 398
- Q. Servilius Fidenas (Pat)
- M. Furius Camillus (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 401, 398, 394, 386, 384, 381
Need to catch up on the first part of 396 BCE? Check out Part One on the Fall of Veii!
Our Sources
- Dr Rad reads Livy, Ab Urbe Condita, 5.18-23.
- Dr G reads Diodorus Siculus, 14.90.1, 14.93.2-3; Fasti Capitolini; Dionysius of Halicarnassus 12.13-16, 13.1-3; Plutarch, Life of Camillus, 5-8; Pliny, Natural History, 33.111; Appian, Ital. 8; Florus, 1.17; Valerius Maximus 1.5.2, 1.8.3; Aulus Gellius, Attic Nights, 17.21; Eutropius, 1.20; Augustine, City of God, 2.17; Orosius, 2.19.1-4; Zonaras, 7.21.
- Bernard, Seth. “Rome from the Sack of Veii to the Gallic Sack.” In Building Mid-Republican Rome. New York: Oxford University Press, 2018. https://doi.org/10.1093/oso/9780190878788.003.0003.
- Bradley, G. 2020. Early Rome to 290 BC (Edinburgh University Press).
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- Bruun, Patrick. “Evocatio Deorum: Some Notes on the Romanization of Etruria.” Scripta Instituti Donneriani Aboensis 6 (1972): 109–20. https://doi.org/10.30674/scripta.67073.
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- Gowing, Alain M. 2009. “The Roman exempla tradition in imperial Greek historiography: The case of Camillus in Feldherr, A., ed. The Cambridge Companion to the Roman Historians. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2009.
- Kraus, C. S. 2020. ‘Urban Disasters and Other Romes: The Case of Veii’ in Closs, V. M., Keitel, E. eds. Urban Disasters and the Roman Imagination (De Gruyter), 17-31.
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- Ogilvie, R. M. 1965. A Commentary on Livy: Books 1-5 (Clarendon Press).
- Prescendi, F. (. (2006). Mater Matuta. In Brill's New Pauly Online. Brill. https://doi.org/10.1163/1574-9347_bnp_e726220
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- Smith, Christopher, Jacopo Tabolli, and Orlando Cerasuolo. “Furius Camillus and Veii.” In Veii, 217–24. New York, USA: University of Texas Press, 2021. https://doi.org/10.7560/317259-030.
- Stevenson, T.R. “Parens Patriae and Livy’s Camillus.” Ramus 29, no. 1 (2000): 27–46. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0048671X00001673.
Sound Credits
Our music is provided by Bettina Joy de Guzman. Sound effects courtesy of Orange Free Sounds.
Automated Transcript
Dr Rad 0:15
Music. Welcome to the partial historians.
Dr G 0:18
We explore all the details of ancient Rome,
Dr Rad 0:23
everything from political scandals, the love affairs, the battles wage and when citizens turn against each other, I'm Dr Rad and
Dr G 0:33
I'm Dr G, we consider Rome as the Romans saw it, by reading different authors from the ancient past and comparing their stories.
Dr Rad 0:44
Join us as we trace the journey of Rome from the founding of the city.
Dr G 0:58
Hello and welcome to a brand new episode of the partial historians. I am Dr G
Dr Rad 1:06
and I am Dr Rad,
Dr G 1:08
and we are in the middle of what is a chaotic time for ancient Rome. It's the year 396, BCE, and oh, boy, are they not having a good time, as far as we can tell so far,
Dr Rad 1:26
indeed, 396 is a very big year for Rome. However, the start of it was not great. Mm,
Dr G 1:33
not great at all. It seems like there were some reversals in the field. There were some poorly planned ambushes and some confusing dealing about with Father Son combinations in the military tribunes with consular power.
Dr Rad 1:48
Yeah. Just for those who didn't listen to our last episode A) I'd probably go and do that, because this is a bit of a narrative that we're building here. However, we're dealing with the end of the siege of Veii, an Etruscan city just to the north of Rome. Rome has had a somewhat complicated relationship with over the years, extending all the way back. And whilst the ancient sources make reference to the fact that, oh yeah, there was this truce from the second big conflict between Rome and of Veii, and it run out, and then there was a king, and he was a bit of a douche bag. And not only did the Romans not like the king of A, but the Etruscans didn't like the king of Veii, and that's why all of this happened. In spite of that, as Dr G rightly pointed out in our previous episode, it's probably