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This episode explores the intersection of fun, engagement, and effective learning. Our guests challenge conventional approaches to leadership development and learning design, sharing insights on creating psychologically safe spaces, using humour and gamification, and making learning truly memorable.

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Guests

Jess Rogers — Leadership coach with nearly 20 years of experience helping ambitious, values-driven senior leaders find their voice and lead authentically. She works with directors, VPs, chiefs of staff, and senior counsel to build confidence, resilience, and clarity without compromise.

• Website: https://www.jessicavrogers.co.uk/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessrogerscoach/
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessrogerscoach/

Elaine Gosden — CEO and founder of Blue Gnu Consulting, a leadership development consultancy specialising in organisational growth. As a highly skilled facilitator with accreditations in Insights Discovery, MBTI, Hogan and Facet5, Elaine creates psychologically safe environments where teams can have authentic conversations and unlock their potential.

• Website: http://www.bluegnuco.com/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaine-gosden-bluegnu/

Kuva — Co-founder of Emergent Learning, a learning strategist and designer fascinated by the sweet spot between fun and effectiveness. With a PhD in online learning design, Kuva explores how gamification, humour, and clever design can transform dry learning experiences into something unforgettable.

• Website: https://www.emergentlearning.com.au/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kuvaj/

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