It was only when Kathy lost her son and ex-husband to murder-suicide in April 2020 she realised how grief had affected her whole life.

Kathy lost both her Dad and Aunt to suicide before she was a teenager and her brother in a motorbike accident aged 22. Kathy developed chronic physical illnesses as a child and sought her own ways of healing something she thought was wrong with herself.

After her son died and took his father with him, Kathy spiralled into grief and realised she didn’t need fixing but needed to grieve. She is doing so, consciously and mindfully, making time to grieve whilst doing everything she can to help her daughter grieve too.

In this powerful episode Kathy and I discuss:

• The physical effects of grief.


• Breathwork, meditation, nature and yoga.


• Catholicism and suicide.


• Combatting guilt.


• Loneliness.


• How to communicate with children around grief.


• How Kathy continues her bond with her son – not his final act.


• How Kathy is managing to balance grief with life.

A very touching story full of wisdom, vulnerability and strength.

Please listen with care and know there are people out there that can help and support you. 

Within the UK: 

Samaritans - Free on 116 123 

Suicide&Co - Free on 0800 054 8400 Mon-Friday 9aam-9pm 

Within the US: 

Suicide Hotline: Free on 1-800-273-8255 or text 742741 

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