Musician Matt Wheeler joins me to talk about Chapters 7-8 of The Horse and His Boy, specifically Shasta among the tombs (ghouls ahoy), and Aravis' adventures. At the end of the hour, he's kind enough to share an original waltzy song about Aravis, inspired by a COVID toilet paper run. (Seriously, it's a great song--if you listen to nothing else, listen to it.)

Before that, we talk about the following:

• The right way (or lack thereof) to pronounce Shasta and Aravis (and Aslan)


• Ghouls, ghouls, ghouls


• Cats and tombs


• Lewis' characterization of Lasarleen and Aravis


• The Tisroc (may he live forever)


• Freedom


• Calormene view of Narnian history


• Lapsed Bear!


• And after the song, Chris throws a little bit of shade at English pronunciation of foreign words to make himself feel better about the fact that he's been mispronouncing Aslan all his life.

For more of Matt's music, click here.

See you in two weeks, when Matt Wheeler will rejoin us to talk about the journey across the desert!