This is a pretty intimate and personal pod and quite long but hang in with us, it will be worth it. Chris's panic attack prompted a conversation about how much we all really need and rely on our friends, family and community.

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TALKING POINTS AND REFERENCES TO PODS AND BOOKS WE MENTION:

Tangentially Speaking: https://open.spotify.com/show/5tMHDm7XHkniXSCTVFDGuE?si=aU6YuZZ6Szi4KyhBVlyTaw

http://chrisryan.substack.com

Project Stargat: https://youtu.be/oP2bUJOgykQ

My Stroke of Insight: https://youtu.be/UyyJU8fzEYU