In this episode, Neil and Gordon catch up on their recent activities. Gordon discusses the impending arrival of his second child and his preparations for managing time out of the business. He also shares his commitment to fitness, including regular gym sessions and running. Neil talks about his family holiday in France, his 42-mile charity walk, and the importance of prioritizing health and relationships. Both brothers express their desire to get back into a regular podcasting rhythm. In this conversation, Neil and Gordon discuss their running goals and the challenges they face in achieving them. Gordon expresses his desire to run a half marathon and eventually the London Marathon, while Neil contemplates running an ultra marathon. They also discuss the impact of having children on their fitness routines and the upcoming birthday party for Gordon's daughter. The conversation ends with a discussion about the reluctance to commit to running goals and the idea of creating AI-generated bots of themselves.