On the latest episode of Security Visionaries, co-hosts Max Havey and Emily Wearmouth sit down for a conversation with guest Chase Cunningham (AKA Dr. Zero Trust) about zero trust and national security. Drawing from his vast experience in both the Navy and cyber forensics, Chase discusses the significance of national governments adopting a strategic approach to cybersecurity. Listen as he examines the evolving cyberattack landscape and whether a Geneva Convention for cyber would be effective. Chase doesn't shy away from the tough issues, as he discusses the ethical challenges faced by democratic nations in a world where some adversaries play by different rules and he also shares interesting insights from his career journey both in the public and private sectors. Don't miss this episode packed with invaluable insights into cybersecurity, national security, and the zero trust framework