In this conversation, Kirk Spahn and Kevin Surace explore the journey of entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of passion, purpose, and joy in achieving success. Surace shares insights from his diverse career, highlighting the significance of teamwork, learning from others, and maintaining curiosity. He introduces the concept of the Joy Success Cycle, which ties joy to productivity and success, and discusses the importance of adaptability and perseverance in the face of challenges. The conversation concludes with key takeaways for young entrepreneurs, encouraging them to stay humble, curious, and focused on adding value to the world.