In this week’s episode, join host Mary Williams and special guest Erica Courdae for the second part of a two part episode. 

The episode delves into the powerful realization that no one is defined solely as "good" or "bad." Instead, Mary and Erica explore the idea that all individuals possess the capacity for both light and shadow, and our unique life experiences shape our responses. Erica masterfully articulates that the true work, often referred to as "shadow work," involves acknowledging these dualities within ourselves and working towards reconciliation.

The dialogue delves into the complexity of societal perspectives on joy, personal growth, and the challenge of finding happiness without encroaching on others. Through Erica's insight, listeners are encouraged to use their voices to share their perceptions and make a positive impact on the world.

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Guest information

Erica Courdae supports Imperfect Allys in taking imperfect action. She facilitates a space where you can ask questions and admit you don’t have all the answers — maybe even any of them at all. She’s here to help you become a more inclusive leader without letting the perfection trap get in your way. Figuring out how you can move from implicit to explicit® values, evolve the way we show up for ourselves and others, and to grow our influence, together. She holds this space through coaching + consulting, the Pause on the Play® podcast, and the Pause on the Play® community.  Connect with Erica at her website, Instagram, LinkedIn.

Show Credits

• Host, Writer, Producer:  Mary Williams
• Sound Master:  Chris Martin
• Marketing Support:  The AK Collective
• Recording Studio:  GoodPeeples Studios

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