About our guest:

Abdel Sghiouar is a senior Cloud Developer Advocate @Google Cloud. A co-host of the Kubernetes Podcast by Google and a CNCF Ambassador. His focused areas are GKE/Kubernetes, Service Mesh, and Serverless. Abdel started his career in data centers and infrastructure in Morocco, where he is originally from, before moving to Google's largest EU data center in Belgium. Then in Sweden, he joined Google Cloud Professional Services and spent five years working with Google Cloud customers on architecting and designing large-scale distributed systems before turning to advocacy and community work.

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• Bluesky
• LinkedIn
• Twitter (X)

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• All of our social channels are on bento.me/geekingout
• All of Adriana's social channels are on bento.me/adrianamvillela

Show notes:

• All Things Open
• Google Pixel 9 Fold
• Samsung Galaxy Flip
• Blue Screen of Death (BSOD)
• Blue Screen of Death T-shirt
• Silicon Valley - Tabs vs. Spaces
• SIG Boba
• Leigh Capili
• The Kubernetes Podcast from Google
• Kaslin Fields (co-host of The Kubernetes Podcast)
• On-Call Me Maybe Podcast
• KubeHuddle
• Humans of OpenTelemetry
• Licence-master (LMD)
• Nagios
• Simple network management protocol (SNMP)
• Apache Mesos
• OpenStack
• DEVOXX Conference (Morocco)

Additional notes:

• Adriana's blog post on OpenStack

Transcript:
ADRIANA: Hey, fellow geeks. Welcome to Geeking Out, the podcast about all geeky aspects of software delivery, DevOps, Observability, reliability, and everything in between. I'm your host, Adriana Villela, coming to you from Toronto, Canada. And Geeking Out with me today, I have Abdel Sghiouar. Welcome, Abdel.

ABDEL: Hello. I should have. I should have known so I could brought my American accent. So, hey, y'all.

ADRIANA: Hey, y'all.

ABDEL: Hey, y'all. I'll try. I'll try.

ADRIANA: It's funny because the first time I heard y'all. So my husband worked in Jacksonville, Florida for a couple of years. He. He's in consulting. And one time I came down to Florida with him for. For the weekend because he had some work stuff to do. And we stop off at a gas station and they're. They're like, how y'all doing? I was like. I started. I. I think I started laughing because I'd never heard, like, "y'all" in real life.

ABDEL: Yeah.

ADRIANA: And I'm like, this is the most glorious thing ever. And I now just love saying "y'all". And my daughter bugs me about saying "y'all". She's like, don't say y'all. I'm like, "it's so much fun to say.

ABDEL: It is. It is. I love it. So. So, yes.

ADRIANA: A little sidebar. So where are you calling from today?

ABDEL: I mean, I'm home, surprisingly, because each time I talk to somebody, they're like, you're home. You're always on the road. I'm in Stockholm, Sweden. So that's where I'm based. But, yeah, usually I am somewhere.

ADRIANA: I know every time I see you on, like, on Twitter, I'm like, it's always a different city. You are definitely globetrotting.

ABDEL: Yeah, I am doing the way I say it is. I'm doing DevRel the hard way.

ADRIANA: Yeah, no kidding. But, you know, I have to say, like, we met in person last year at All Things Open. And I remember it was like, just before. It was definitely before KubeCon EU. And you were, like, giving me tips on. On, like, places to. To stay in. In Paris. You're like, don't stay too close to the conference venue, because then it's like, it's kind of a boring area. You want something that's a little bit further out so that it's closer to the cooler, touristy stuff. And I'm like, yes. So that was such great advice.

ABDEL: And I think we ended up being in the same hotel now.

ADRIANA: We did. We did. Yeah. Yeah. You recommended. You recommended a hotel to me, I'm like, that looks like a good spot.

ABDEL: Yeah, I remember that we shared like a. We shared like a walk and we had some croissant on the way to. To KubeCon at some point.

ADRIANA: Yeah, that's right. That's right. On one of the days we. We ran into each other. I'm like, ah, staying at the same hotel and running into each other. What are, what are the odds? Right?

ABDEL: Yeah, no, that's. That was fun. KubeCon Paris was fun.

ADRIANA: That was. I'm looking forward to the next KubeCon. Are you going to be. Are you going to be in Salt Lake City?

ABDEL: I am trying, but yes, most probably, yes, because I got accepted. I have a talk. Accepted. So finally. Thank you.

ADRIANA: Congrats.

ABDEL: Thank you. And yeah, so hopefully, hopefully I'll. I'll be there. It's going to be fun. We are planning some stuff for the podcast and me and, yeah, me and the colleague were accepted and then Kaslin is going to be there. So it'll be fun.

ADRIANA: Yay. That's awesome. Cool. I have many questions, but before. Before we get started, I'm going to start with the. With the lightning round slash icebreaker questions.

ABDEL: Sure.

ADRIANA: Okay. You ready?

ABDEL: Sure. Go for it.

ADRIANA: First question. Are you a lefty or a righty?

ABDEL: I am a righty.

ADRIANA: Okay. Do you prefer iPhone or Android?

ABDEL: iPhone. I've been experimenting with the Pixel 9 recently, the Fold one. Because I'm getting old and I need big screens and I do have to admit I like it, but I am not ready to convert yet.

ADRIANA: Yeah, so the folding one, that's cool.

ABDEL: Yeah, Nine Fold. The new model. The. Yeah, the big one, that is cool.

ADRIANA: You know, like, I actually miss my flip phone. As much as I love my smartphone, there is something so satisfying about, like, flipping.

ABDEL: Yes.

ADRIANA: Flipping your phone off, flipping your phone up to talk and then just closing to hang up and. Yeah, I miss those days.

ABDEL: Yeah. Unfortunately, the Fold doesn't open that way. Right. It opens like a book, but it's still.

ADRIANA: Oh, it's that kind of a fool.

ABDEL: Yeah. Yeah. So I think. I think that the one that you're talking about, the only model that exists is the Samsung Flip, they call it.

ADRIANA: Yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking.

ABDEL: But yeah, the Fold is like basically a big phone, but double because when you unfold it, it's like. Yeah, just a large. A small tablet, essentially.

ADRIANA: Yeah, I was going to say it sounds like a small tablet.

ABDEL: Exactly.

ADRIANA: Thing. I'd be curious to see one in real life. I don't think it'll make me convert from my iPhone, but I would still be curious to see it in real life.

ABDEL: I am still on iPhone just because it's just so easy when you have everything Apple and so, yeah, we'll see. We'll see if I get. If I ever convert.

ADRIANA: Fair enough. Fair enough. Okay, well, that leads to my next question. Do you prefer Mac, Linux or Windows?

ABDEL: I'm both a Mac and the Linux user. I've been a Linux user forever, since my start of my career. Like, I started with Mandrake, which then became Mandriva, and then eventually Fedora and Ubuntu and Debian, and then eventually a few years ago converted to Mac just because it's easier for work. But I still have a Linux laptop and I still use Linux daily. So Windows, I have never used Windows in my life.

ADRIANA: Really? No way.

ABDEL: If you put me in front of a Windows computer, I wouldn't know what to do.

ADRIANA:</stron