Rick speaks with Alex Lawson, Executive Director of Social Security Works, about Trump allies exploiting Charlie Kirk’s murder to silence dissent and weaponize grief against perceived enemies. Alex unpacks how this moment reveals the right’s broader strategy to intimidate opposition while avoiding accountability. Later, Pennsylvania State Representative Napoleon Nelson, Chair of the Legislative Black Caucus, joins to discuss the caucus’s stance on lowering flags in Kirk’s honor. Nelson explains the nuanced position of balancing respect for tragedy with the responsibility to honor shared civic values. Together, these conversations expose the politics behind mourning and manipulation.

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