Grappling with her daughter's trans identification was but one step in Stoic Mom's positive disintegration, leading her to truly sort out her values intellectually and grapple emotionally with what it truly means for an individual to live up to her unique potential. In this episode, she continues a conversation she's been having with Jessie on her own podcast, the Stoic Mom project, exploring Jessie's notion of "the paradox of weirdness" and the new counterculture, the meaning of virtue, the problems with mental health diagnosis as identity, and the role of gender in our culture.

• StoicMom Project Podcast: Butterflies Becoming
• StoicMom Project Podcast: "You're a Wizard, Harry" - A Conversation for the Abstract-Intense
• StoicMom Project Podcast: Perceiving a Higher Path - Jessie Mannisto Interviews StoicMom
• StoicMom's personal life philsophy (paywalled)
• Weirdos of the World, Unite: Jessie and Eliza Mondegreen chat about weirdness, confidence, and gender with Benjamin Boyce
• stoicmom.substack.com: see tab for member community
• Theme music from TELL YOUR STORY music by ikson™