Many churches make it out of their infancies and early years and hit their strides as they approach the double-digit years of existence. When a church’s life cycle reaches this point, it’s easy for its leaders to focus on what got them there. But that can be a misstep.
In this episode, Erika talks with Brad Hill, Gloo’s chief solutions officer, about how thriving, expanding churches can maximize their opportunities by developing new ways of thinking about ministry and doing it. 
Embracing new technologies like AI, and the ways they can be used for advancing the Good News and making disciples, is one such way. Finding ways to measure the health and well-being of the people coming to the church is another way. Learn more as Erika and Brad explain how a thriving, expanding church is made possible when that church thinks innovatively about helping its people thrive and flourish.
Show Notes:


Episode 45: “The Lifecycle of a Church”


Episode 32: “Readying Your Church for the AI Wave”

AI and the Church - Gloo


State of the Church – 2025: Measuring What Matters in Ministry, by Gloo and Barna

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“Generative AI is All the Rage. Handle With Care,” by Matthew Branaugh

“Yes, Ministries Should Embrace AI,” by Jonathan Smith


Church IT, Third Edition, by Nick Nicholaou and Jonathan Smith

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Erika E. Cole, Esq., known as The Church Attorney®, is the creator of The Church Attorney Legal Audit® System, a proprietary legal audit process that helps church leaders be confident they are operating with integrity, and avoiding costly risks. She serves as a senior editorial advisor for ChurchLawAndTax.com.
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